The lost Council LP

You’d think a crew who went to the trouble of photographing a bunch of bananas for their 12″ of the same name would go to the trouble of spelling the damn word right. Still, that’s one of the many charms of this obscure but much loved joint from 1998 on Rancore records. Put together by Jaz-O – the man who put Jigga on (yeah, cheers) – this bunch of no-names eventually formed into Immobilarie and got signed to Tommy Boy Black Label but ended up coming out on their own Rancore imprint in 2002 with ‘Kingz Kounty’ – an album full of mighty fine cuts. But what of the ‘Council Era’ LP advertised on the back of this must-have double banger? Another lost LP? We thought so, but turns out it dropped in very limited runs on CD, and our man Azeez hooked us up. Grateful doesn’t begin to cover it. So enjoy this 12″ jammy, and another track taken from the ‘Council Era’ LP. If you’re nice enough, we’ll drop some more of it in the future…

Council – Banannas

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Council – Council Era

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4 Responses to "The lost Council LP"
  1. Reply Arpiss Calam September 21, 2012 14:24 pm

    Man, if you only knew how much demand is behind this album (rivals the Raw Breed “Killa Instinct” album until Marc Live decided to drop it on his own after over a decade of waiting). What in the world would it take to get this entire album out to the world? I know you guys either a.) aren’t willing to give that album up, or b.) only taking a high premium for the album. Well I’m very interested, if the price is right. Almost as interested as I would be for a mastered CD version of Crustified Dibbs “Night Of The Bloody Apes” (which I hear was never created, only promotional tapes and the “Bloodshed Hua Hoo” 12″ vinyl singles). Well I’ve babbled enough, would love to hear back from you’ll about this. Take care.

    • Reply Mike Moskowitz November 14, 2012 16:39 pm

      I own the masters, once owned Rancore Records (now defunct). I liked the Council Era Album as well, the problem came when we had to cough up $250,000 in sample clearance fees. And some of the samples were not clearable unless we had a strong arm contract with the Label that owned the publishing. Well, that;s my 2 cents.

  2. Reply Mike Moskowitz November 14, 2012 16:38 pm

    I own the masters, once owned Rancore Records (now defunct). I liked the Council Era Album as well, the problem came when we had to cough up $250,000 in sample clearance fees. And some of the samples were not clearable unless we had a strong arm contract with the Label that owned the publishing. Well, that;s my 2 cents.

  3. Reply The Council February 14, 2013 11:49 am

    We loved recording this album. We never received a real valid response as to why the album wasn’t released. At the time Eddie O from Tommy Boy wanted to put out the album and had every intention to partner with Mike Moskowitz but he couldn’t stop Tommy Boy from dissolving. Mike Moskowitz never made it clear as to why the album couldn’t go out. There was a lot of smoke and mirrors, however we moved on and started another project which was the Kingz Kounty album which was sabotaged by Jaz-O and Mike Moskowitz. Mike Moskowitz became a sycophant to Jaz-O or vice versa and for some strange reason (out of the blue) Mike Moskowitz was convinced by Jaz-O that it was Jaz-o who would be the primary focus when the original Council members which was now known as the Immobilarie and the other members were to be in a secondary position. Jaz-O was brought in as a producer and we made sure Mike Moskowitz understood his role in the whole picture. But of course these two marketing geniuses (that was a joke) had a few tricks up their sleeves. In fact the reason the name of the album is Jaz-O and the Immobilarie but only has a few Jaz-O songs on it (which weren’t even supposed to be), is because Jaz-O and Mike Moskowitz changed the billing at the last minute behind our backs, they even tried to remove our songs at a mastering session which we intercepted. The name of the album was supposed be the Immobilarie, period. Jaz-O was just a feature and a producer, supossed to be member of the Immobilarie. He decided to promote Kingz Kounty as some imaginary crew that had zero members, literally. We had no idea who and what Kingz Kounty was but the Brooklyn itself but when asked what it was he responded it was his movement, but his movement was no one. He inserted Kingz Kounty into the marketing overnight and we didn’t even see it coming. It never occurred to Mike Moskowitz that Jaz-O putting out a diss song dissing Jay-Z was going to be a disaster (and the marketing genius of year award goes to…) when everyone in the Council told him it was the biggest mistake he could make or let Jaz-O make during an album release and period. For example putting out a $30,000 ad in the Source magazine versus shooting a video, the ad runs in circulation for one month versus a video that creates more buzz in syndication. Mike Moskowitz always seemed to be stubborn and completely oblivious to reality when it came to both Council Era and Kingz Kounty, the latter being a vampiric attempt for Jaz-O to resurrect himself from the dead at the expense of destroying the opportunity of the Council that brought him in on the whole situation. To this day we are all trying to figure out why would Jaz-O cross us and then turn around and be a hypocrite and blame Jay-Z for seeing what he did to us and cutting him loose. That is why Jay-Z cut Jaz-O off; it was common knowledge that Jaz-O was doing everyone dirty at the time even DJ Premiere was stiffed for his money. Juan at Bassline studios was stiffed and it all started to feel like there was something really dark about Jaz-O. Mike Moskowitz let Jaz-O arrange secret meetings, arrangements, and project changes behind everyone’s back. We never wanted to be involved with that whole Jay-Z beef because we respected Jay-Z and he respected us. There were many times when Jay-Z had to call Jaz-O and ask him a thousand times why was he saying what he was saying about Jay-Z and Jaz-O would blame Sauce Money and cop a plea and actually deny he said any of it. Just like he recanted the fact that he said Jay-Z was “letting industry big wigs feel him up”. Now watch the video of him saying it then watch the video of him denying it. That’s classic Jaz-O a schizophrenic, bi-polar personality disorder. So as the Council and the Immobilarie we apologize to all of our fans who were robbed of what could have been a great catalog of music, a real hip hop legacy. We also would like to make it very clear that we never ever condoned the disrespect sent to Jay-Z and we were the only people against it. Besides it having a direct effect on our careers, we had an ethical stance against it because we saw a miserable man and incompetent President perpetuating the slander of one of our successful brothers – Jay-Z. In peace to all of our beloved we send our best regards but we had to expose the truth so you can finally know what happened to Council and the Immobilarie who consisted of P Knocka, Floss, and Dibiase.

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